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The 1035 Bonus, the Income Plan, and the Roth Question

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The 1035 Bonus, the Income Plan, and the Roth Question

Rosa is 64, born in 1961, and retiring in June. She holds a nonqualified deferred annuity with a $450,000 account value and $260,000 cost basis, carrying a 3% surrender charge that expires in 20 months plus a market value adjustment; a traditional IRA of $620,000 with no basis; and a Roth IRA of $80,000 opened in 2015. She needs $35,000 a year of after-tax income beginning at age 66, when Social Security starts, and will live on savings until then. She is in the 24% federal bracket and pays New York State income tax. Her agent recommends a 1035 exchange into a new annuity with a 10% premium bonus and a fresh seven-year surrender schedule, and converting the entire $620,000 IRA to a Roth this year.

1. Evaluate the 1035 exchange recommendation.

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The exchange is not automatically wrong, but the stated reasons are the wrong reasons.

  • Cost of leaving now: 3% of $450,000 is $13,500, plus whatever the market value adjustment adds. That is a real, certain loss.
  • What the bonus buys: a 10% credit ($45,000) is typically recovered through higher mortality and expense charges, and it usually vests over time - surrender in year two or three and part of it disappears. A fresh seven-year schedule runs well past her age-66 income start and past her required beginning date.
  • What a 1035 does accomplish: no tax on the exchange, and the $260,000 basis carries over to the new contract. That is the only thing the exchange guarantees her.

Better sequencing:

  1. Wait the 20 months if the contract is otherwise competitive; the surrender charge evaporates and the MVA window closes.
  2. Use the free-withdrawal provision (commonly 10% a year) to bridge to 66 at no charge.
  3. If she does move, compare a lower-cost contract with a short surrender period, or split the money - part into a guaranteed income annuity for the $35,000 floor, part kept liquid. Ask what the new contract's surrender value would be in year three, in dollars, and compare that to today's.

2. How should she draw income from the annuity, and how is it taxed?

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Nonqualified annuity withdrawals are gain-first (LIFO). With $450,000 of value and $260,000 of basis, the first $190,000 coming out is entirely ordinary income; only after basis is recovered does any of it come out tax-free. There is no 10% penalty - she is past 59½.

Annuitizing changes the math. If she elects a life-with-period-certain payout, the exclusion ratio applies: basis divided by expected return. On $260,000 of basis against, say, $600,000 of expected return, roughly 43% of each payment is excluded from income until basis is fully recovered. If she dies before recovering basis, the unrecovered amount is deductible on her final return.

Which is better depends on her goals:

  • LIFO withdrawals are flexible but front-load taxable income - poor in a year she is managing MAGI.
  • Annuitization spreads income evenly and provides a mortality guarantee, but is irrevocable.

One state note: New York permits a limited retirement-income subtraction for annuity income, but it is subject to a Social Security offset and does not apply to lump sums. Confirm the current amount against her actual return before assuming a state benefit.

3. Critique the recommendation to convert the entire $620,000 IRA this year.

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Converting all of it in one year is almost certainly the wrong answer - for three separate reasons.

  1. Bracket compression. Adding $620,000 to ordinary income drives nearly all of it above the 24% bracket into 32% and 35%. The conversion is permanent; the tax rate is not. She should fill the 24% bracket each year and no further.
  2. Medicare and marketplace subsidies. She retires at 64, so she needs marketplace coverage until Medicare at 65 - and a $620,000 conversion in that year eliminates any premium tax credit. Two years later, the same income would trigger IRMAA surcharges on Part B and D two years down the line.
  3. Timing window. Born in 1961, her required beginning date is age 75, so she has roughly a decade. That argues for level annual conversions from 66 to 75, done after the marketplace year, each sized to the top of her target bracket and coordinated with her $35,000 income need (pull that from taxable savings and Roth basis, not from conversions).

Also: Roth conversions cannot satisfy a required minimum distribution, and Roth distributions after five years and age 59½ are tax-free - she already satisfies both. Note that New York does not follow the federal rules dollar-for-dollar on conversions; confirm the state subtraction before filing.